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debbuna |
Lucy and hypos |
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Lucy had another hypo today. She was sleeping most of the day but I was sick and thought she was just lazy because I was. When I called her out of her bed,
she started to get up and collapsed. I took a reading and it was at 37 (actual, around 58). This is freaking me out! I am beginning to think that we are
still messing with rebound from her last hypo incident while camping. Today's was just 2 hours after her lunch, so she ate on time. I gave her honey and
1/2 chicken tender. 2 hours later, she was at 131. Tonight I am going to feed her and back way off on the insulin from her 6.5 to 4.5 and start the whole
damn thing over again. Last time I did that but maybe rushed the increases too fast. What is going on here?? Any suggestions??
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Lucy, American
Pugsley, age 12 -born 6/26/1996, DX. diabetic Nov. 07, blind 2/08,
Weight 14 lbs., Novelin N 7U , Homecooked chicken/white rice/ broccoli with canned Hills W/D |
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Killiansmom.petswithdiabetes |
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Hi Dee
Sorry this took me so long!! My mom went to the hospital tonight and I just got in... As for the hypos...Yes I agree that you went up to soon with the insulin.... You were also away again this past week and it seams there might be a pattern there.... I think maybe the stress of her being in unfamiliar surroundings ( and blind) has to be stressful) It just also can be she was never fully regulated from the last hypo and then went away again... So yes cut the insulin,,, Keep testing her and keep a record of her BG ... Let us know in the morning where she is at with her numbers... Maybe a visit with DR Mike is in order..... |
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Brandy mom |
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I would get a blood panel done to make sure there isn't anything else going on. Other things can cause a hypo and a blood panel could rule them out.
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debbuna |
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I got a different dog this morning. I gave her 4.5 U last night, routine as usual and she woke up playful and full of spunk, bouncing around like a puppy.
This is too weird. At fasting today she is at 205 and I fed and gave another 4.5 U. Maybe she just needs less insulin than before.
and my
Lucy, American
Pugsley, age 14 -born 4/18/1996, DX. diabetic Nov. 07, blind 2/08,
Weight 11 lbs., Novelin N 7 U , Homecooked chicken/white rice with canned Hills W/D |
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Killiansmom.petswithdiabetes |
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Dee
Try staying at the lower dose for a while and see how she is doing... Killian needed almost 10 units of insulin less after his last Pancreatitis attack.. I stayed at 31 units from 41 units till the end.... Every dog is different and absorbs insulin differently... |
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Fro all ya'll that don't know this Dees dog Lucy has a few nicknames. The Goose and Gummie. I named her Gummie when Lucy had a dental and had a
bunch of teeth pulled.
Is " Gummie" due for a panel Dee?. I would have one done. I agree with Dawn on that one. It would really put your mind at ease to know everything is OK. JMO |
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Dee
How is Lucy this afternoon? What are her numbers doing now? |
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debbuna |
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Johanna, what are you doing online...thought you were at the hospital. Let us know on that.
She's doing great, feisty, bouncing around, looking for me with interest of getting more of that honey and bread I give her now and then....she thinks it's a reward for something.
She got a toenail trim, fought like crazy (which means she is feeling good), is eating, no problems. Bgs. stable around the high 100's-low 200's (231 this am at fast, 168 at noon, and 221 at 5pm). So 4.5 U it is...indefinitely or until I see a steady rise and consistently higher numbers. Interesting huh, how this all works. Johanna, you're right, stress drops the Goose instead of raising her bgs. and she's in for more of the same this weekend. I'll leave that for another post. and my
Lucy, American
Pugsley, age 14 -born 4/18/1996, DX. diabetic Nov. 07, blind 2/08,
Weight 11 lbs., Novelin N 7 U , Homecooked chicken/white rice with canned Hills W/D |
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Killiansmom.petswithdiabetes |
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I'm Home but my mom is still in the hospital... She is fine now but they want to observe her for a few days....
Where are you going this weekend???How's our Goose?
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10/07/09 7:13 PM.
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debbuna |
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Well, we went to the river this weekend and Lucy did well. I've been suspecting rebound for a few days as the source of her erratic bgs- big highs and
super low lows. I've cut her back to 4.5 U again and am starting over again.
We stayed in a house there and Lucy traveled with an infant portable crib. Very cute actually. To keep her safe and secure (and Clean), we set up her playpen on the sand with her big dog bed and mammas under the Easy up for shade and she was very content. In fact, used the crib while in the house and she loved it. It kept her from wandering through a strange place with strange people and she could still hear me so she was fine and had no issues. This time I was sure to have my honey on hand, my meter and strips, and everything she needed but there was no incident. Home now, she acts like she never left- is still at 4.5 U and will have a curve done tomorrow (one week), and this time, I will do the increases veeeerrrrryyyy slowly. I think I took her up too quickly last time resulting in the same erractic issues. She's happy and bouncy today. What do you think the chances are that the 4.5 U is enough now for some odd reason and she'll need less from now on? and my
Lucy, American
Pugsley, age 14 -born 4/18/1996, DX. diabetic Nov. 07, blind 2/08,
Weight 11 lbs., Novelin N 7 U , Homecooked chicken/white rice with canned Hills W/D |
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Killiansmom.petswithdiabetes |
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Hi Dee
Glad your home. I think the Goose is getting use to the weekend adventures... Great that you found that baby crib.. Will she use it at home too? She is so funny with her picky ways, I thought you were going to be on a boat?
Honored to have been a diabetic mom
to Killian .
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debbuna |
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Yes, the boat. We actually had 4 boats with our crew and the intent was for a men's fishing trip and the women and kids to be dropped off at the sandbar
and set up comfortably while the guys took off to fish. The boat ride from the dock to the sandbar was within the "no wake" zone, so it was a gentle
put-put to where we were going...we probably could have swam it! During Saturday afternoon the wind picked up and I put a blanket over Lucy's playpen to
keep the wind off her and 2 people stopped by for a look at the "baby".... so funny...there was little Lucy all curled up with 2 mammas under her
legs and her ears standing straight up like a bat!! It was hysterical, but even they had to admit, it was a great way to travel with an aged, sick, blind dog.
and my
Lucy, American
Pugsley, age 14 -born 4/18/1996, DX. diabetic Nov. 07, blind 2/08,
Weight 11 lbs., Novelin N 7 U , Homecooked chicken/white rice with canned Hills W/D |
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LOL!!! I can just see her in her bed with her mammas. so funny and for peole to stop and see the "baby". Dee I don't know why but my older now
deceased schnauzer took 24 units to regulate . Before he passed he was down to 10 units. I don't know why, he just needed less so maybe Lucy is just
needing less. I would leave at the 4.5 and just ck on her and see waht happens. Less insulin is good in my opinion!!!!!
Bo diabetic schnauzer 1995-2007. Also had IBD. |
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winsmom |
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Dee///Lucy is Winnie's age and I'm starting to think it's age related Win had stable sugars for years but since late summer he's been very
labile His and lows for no apparent reason last week one of his fasting sugars was close to 300...yesterday morning he was 38. I've quit juggling his
insulin but adjust his food Hi a bit less kibble, low a little more and a big bisuit rather than a small one at cookie time...very low he gets some cottage
cheese or a bit of the canned food that is usually off limits to him....and I hold his insulin back about 30-40 minutes until I'm sure he's got some
circulating carbs
"It is not true that life is one damn thing after another...it's the same damn thing over and over" Edna St Vincent Millay
Judy, mom to Winnie, Reuben,, Hardy , Jr Jones and Leroy Scoochie ATB |
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Judy
I saw the same with Killian.. He just seamed to need less insulin.. and like you I would adjust the food/ carbs. All this can not be handled this way for those that don't home test thats why I believe home testing is the most important tool you can have with a diabetic dog... Unless Killie was super low..almost hypo low... I would give less insulin.. But like you I didn't give any insulin untill the BG reading was at a safe level. This is just stuff we know to do in time... |
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debbuna |
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I know Judy. Since Lucy's lows I've been giving her a tad bit more food in the morning and night. She seems pretty stable now at 5 U (down from 6.5)
and I think that is a big drop in insulin for her, but she is acting more herself the last couple days and her bgs. are hovering in the high 100's- low
200's. She did have a 319 reading this am though. She still seems to be drinking more water- I wouldn't call it excessive or abnormal, but she's
never been a big water drinker. I think I'm just on top of her more and probably just noticing her drinking where I may not have before.
and my
Lucy, American
Pugsley, age 14 -born 4/18/1996, DX. diabetic Nov. 07, blind 2/08,
Weight 11 lbs., Novelin N 7 U , Homecooked chicken/white rice with canned Hills W/D |
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Dee
Those are really good numbers.... So if you get a curve here and there of a high , It's not the end of the world. It's not lasting long and it's not every day.. You need to take her age in consideration and realise she is doing well as long as she is eating and drinking and playing with her Mommas Dont get controlled by her Bg's ... Enjoy her !!! |
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debbuna |
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I know Johanna, I am enjoying her and I want her to be around for a while. She is just too much a part of my life.
and my
Lucy, American
Pugsley, age 14 -born 4/18/1996, DX. diabetic Nov. 07, blind 2/08,
Weight 11 lbs., Novelin N 7 U , Homecooked chicken/white rice with canned Hills W/D |
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