I think Nash has a touch of Pancreatitis

Re: I think Nash has a touch of Pancreatitis

feeds@yuku.com (debbuna) — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 01:37:24 PST

You know, I recently went to the Hills Prescription website and wow, I never knew they had so many foods for different things. They have kidney food, liver food, joint food, diabetic food, you name it, they make it. I was upset to see the W/D that Lucy eats is used mainly for weight control and she certainly doesn't need that!! She is too underweight- maybe that's why, huh?

Glad Nash is better Cindy, I'm looking into food too (but scared to change anything), do they make a dry food in the I/D, maybe the dry would be less expensive?

Re: I think Nash has a touch of Pancreatitis

feeds@yuku.com (lindsay write) — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 00:40:47 PST

Glad Nash is feeling better! The rumbly tummy: it seems that some dogs (and some people) always have this problem. It's not easy to sleep when your bedroom is being gassed though, is it?

I can't help with diet (it's not my best subject) but you might want to try something for senior dogs. The ingredients aren't as rich which may help with the gas situation. It's usually higher in fiber, lower in protein, and just plain easier to digest. Your vet can hopefully give you some help finding an alternative to ID.

Jo, I often bake separate meat for my dogs, too. It seems so mean to let them smell our food but they can't have any of their own.

Re: I think Nash has a touch of Pancreatitis

feeds@yuku.com (mommytoNash) — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 08:17:20 PST

Thanks for checking in ladies!!

Nash has been brilliant since we put him on the ID. The thing that is frustrating is that I did NO cooking for Thanksgiving (well, potatoes and veggie casserole, but these are daily occurrences). But frankly, I think this has been coming on.

We noticed a couple weeks ago that he was having gas in the evenings. Not so much during the day......but ALWAYS in the evening, which was so much fun having him sleep with us. And his tummy seemed more rumbly (is that a word, haha!?). He's always had a bit of a rumbly tummy, and I notice again, in the evenings. But, it seemed to get worse. Of course, this all coincides with a new bag of food.......so I think it's time for me to change food.

So, I need some help here. I can't keep him on the ID (too expensive). But, I need something that is easy to digest, but will keep him even during the day. I'd prefer dry (and it tends to be more reasonably priced) because...

Re: I think Nash has a touch of Pancreatitis

feeds@yuku.com (Carolyn98) — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 15:28:34 PST

Cindy, just wondering how Nash was doing?

Johanna, leave it to you to cook Killian his own turkey!!!!!
I worked though and I for one thought it was a brilliant idea!!!!
A very good solution at Thanksgiving and Christmas.
Thanks for sharing.

Re: I think Nash has a touch of Pancreatitis

feeds@yuku.com (Johanna13) — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 12:44:20 PST

Dee the old saying is Thanksgiving and Pancreatitis go together..

The worry that Killian would get another attack had me also so concerned....
But I found out that turkey breast has less fat then Chicken breast....
So I bought a second turkey... ( just the breast ) and cooked it ahead of time...
No butter , no nothing !!! just plain Turkey breast...

So while my Thanksgiving dinner was cooking and those smells were starting to hit, and making his tummy rumble....
I fed him some turkey breast.... He was happy.. I made my dinner... And no Pancreatitis !!

Re: I think Nash has a touch of Pancreatitis

feeds@yuku.com (debbuna) — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:00:36 PST

Cindy, so glad the Nashman is ok. Whew! Always something huh? Today I made my turkey (long story) and it cooked all day and Lucy started with the diarrhea early on today. I know it's from the cooking smells because she layed by the stove most of the day and "hmmmphh'ed off and on all day- geez, she wanted that turkey! I ended up giving her a bit of the breast meat at dinner (bad mommy!), but she deserved it for suffering so all day. I worry about the diarrhea later I guess.

Re: I think Nash has a touch of Pancreatitis

feeds@yuku.com (Brandy mom) — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 23:09:10 PST

darn I am going to bed and was hoping for an update before I go. I have having problems with this site tonight. Just slow

Re: I think Nash has a touch of Pancreatitis

feeds@yuku.com (mommytoNash) — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 17:19:25 PST

Nash is nearly is 'old' self. He sleep very good last night, and no more throwing up. I'll get on later tonight and update. Have to run for now. Thanks for caring, REALLY!! Thank you!!

Re: I think Nash has a touch of Pancreatitis

feeds@yuku.com (lindsay write) — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 01:29:09 PST

Glad he seems to be feeling better, Cindy! It's so hard when a diabetic is having food issues. I'm wondering if something changed in his regular food, too. You're really careful about what Nash eats but is there any chance he got into any illegal food lately?

He may have just caught a stomach bug, too. Have you tried Pepcid?

How are his poops?

Re: I think Nash has a touch of Pancreatitis

feeds@yuku.com (mommytoNash) — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:11:38 PST

He seems better tonight. I gave him about a 1/2 can of ID, mushed down, with lots of water in it. And of course, kept his insulin down also. Of course, I realize I may experience some highs, and infact he was 360 when I feed him. But, we'll see what tomorrow brings.

I went ahead and purchased 8 cans. Good to have a few on hand. I wondering if they have changed something in his food.

If he throws up anymore, I'll take him in. But, so far, so good. Say a little prayer. The poor boy has seen the Vet way too much this year. It is driving me crazy.

He hasn't had any other symptoms, so we will see. I'm thinking it's early, and pray the ID calms things down.

Thanks for caring!!

Re: I think Nash has a touch of Pancreatitis

feeds@yuku.com (Carolyn98) — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:09:57 PST

Cindy and Nash!!
Just checking in also but it sounds like you caught it early if it was indeed pancreatitis!!
I`m praying it wasn`t but it is best to be safe than sorry and treat it like it might have been!
I would never be comfortable with holding water to any animal myself but that is me and the vet may decide differently but then again they use IV for hydration when necessary.
Hugs to you and Nash!
Love Carolyn

Re: I think Nash has a touch of Pancreatitis

feeds@yuku.com (Carolyn98) — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:00:33 PST

Cindy and Nash!!
Just checking in also but it sounds like you caught early if it was indeed pancreatitis!!
I`m praying it wasn`t but it is best to be safe than sorry and treat it like it might have been!
Hugs to you and Nash!
Love Carolyn

Re: I think Nash has a touch of Pancreatitis

feeds@yuku.com (rhodesian46) — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:29:26 PST

Cindi,
Just checking in on Nash man. Is he feeling better?

The test that they use Jody is Snap CpL.

Re: I think Nash has a touch of Pancreatitis

feeds@yuku.com (angelsissy) — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:27:29 PST

Poor Nash!!! Some dogs just seem to get it more easily than others. I have used the ID with Fritz and his "explosive runs" with great success. Except it makes the poo yellow! I think it looks and smells like wallpaper paste, but he scarfs it up - so OK. I know the theory has been to restrict food for 24 hours, but I have read - like Johanna said - to give small amounts of clear broth and a little chicken. Since the first thing they do at a vet is hook a dog up to IVs to replace fluid, I would let Nash have as much water as he wants! You don't want to go there! Keep us posted.

Re: I think Nash has a touch of Pancreatitis

feeds@yuku.com (Jody921) — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:57:42 PST

Just checking in here to see how Nashman is doing. Let us know. I'm glad that you are in tune to him and can catch something like this early on.

Johanna said that he should be checked for it. How do they tell that this is what it is? Blood testing? Thank goodness I never had to deal with this. Taffy got into alot of stuff back in the day - whew, guess I was lucky!

Re: I think Nash has a touch of Pancreatitis

feeds@yuku.com (birdk) — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:59:13 PST

Oh hope it is not pancreatitis. Maybe just upset tummy? Do you ever give him pepcid? Nick does this some but then it goes away. Hoping Nash is OK by pm!!!!

Re: I think Nash has a touch of Pancreatitis

feeds@yuku.com (mzizgayle) — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:05:14 PST

many hugs and kisses for Nash

Re: I think Nash has a touch of Pancreatitis

feeds@yuku.com (Johanna13) — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:48:33 PST

Hey Cindy..
I would get him checked if you can.. IF it is Pancreatitis and you catch it fast enough that makes it so much easier...
I'm still a firm believer of the clear chicken broth with small amounts of cooked chicken breast in it in the beginning,,,
Actually Turkey breast has even less fat then the chicken....

No I never held back water...Dehydration is something you don't want ....

Re: I think Nash has a touch of Pancreatitis

feeds@yuku.com (Ricksma) — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:47:52 PST

Cindy, it sounds as though you have everything under control, so all I can do at this point is offer you my support...poor Nash. Even a mild case of pancreatitis must be uncomfortable. Let us know how it goes today.

I think Nash has a touch of Pancreatitis

feeds@yuku.com (mommytoNash) — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:06:23 PST

Well, I think Nash might have a touch of pancreatitis.

We've had an issue with him throwing up a couple times the last few days. And the last two nights he's been "really" restless. We haven't had a bout since last Winter, and it was mild also. So, since I don't have anything for a 'Johanna' diet, I am softening his food this morning, and cutting him to half, and cutting his insulin to half.

I would keep him off the food if he wasn't diabetic. And then I'll call my Vet today and see if they'll let me pick up some cans of Prescription ID later today.

Of course I have a full schedule at work this week, and didn't get much sleep because of this. He's had some weird high's lately, but then again, he seems to throw in the middle of the nights, and the highs have been in the morning.

Last time this happened, I had a couple cans of ID left over from the first time, and kept him...